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sportstalkmatt
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 1607
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| vjay wrote: | | Jaybird wrote: | | sportstalkmatt wrote: | You will not able to promote your show without it being of some interest to our board directly. No one is going to use the board to promote things that have nothing to do with the board. That means blogs, TV shows or radio programs for at least the first 90 days on the site. This comes from Rivals and I agree 100%. We will re-evulate the policy after 90 days.
Fred deleted your post and Fred will delete those kind of posts in the future. Sorry - rules have changed with the new board. Add content - add a something worth reading - give your opinion.....and then we can talk about your promoting your radio show maybe in the future but so far - all you do is post about your radio show...no dice. |
Well, great. Now there's a rule at Rivals that posts have to be worth reading? I might as well not even start over there if they're going to have, like, standards and stuff. My posts have been content-free for years. I'm like GM. I can't retool now, after all this time.
You might want to consider relaxing a rule or two, Matt, if you're allowed to. From what I've read on Rivals so far, It's not exactly the Lincoln-Douglas debates over there. Seems like there should be room to plug a Jays radio show every now and then without lowering the level of decorum and discourse.
By the way, if this little startup radio show in that kamikaze Sunday morning time slot is really competition to a corporate giant "in all areas", I have to make a point to start tuning in. That's suddenly "must listen radio" for me. |
Matt,
I have never met you, nor have I ever met tkjay or any of the Bluejay Banter people. I have kept quiet on the whole old board/new board debate. After coming on here today and reading your double standard response to tkjay, I lost any respect I had for you. Although I did not live in Omaha while you worked there, I appreciated your coverage of the Jays (waited patiently for the podcasts to go up). I worked in Athletics at Creighton when we had to do everything we could to get any type of coverage from the local media. Now that you no longer have a radio presence in Omaha, what these guys are doing to try and get CU some coverage other than the World-Herald (I don't have to be in Omaha to know that KM3, WOWT, KETV and KPTM aren't doing jack for coverage) is admirable, and yes, would be related to anything on the BJC. I find it very hard to believe that this is a Rivals standard. Again, as someone who used to work in athletics at CU (with many of the people who are still there - including Ras, Sarver and DA), knowing those people like I do, I imagine they are thrilled with the Rivals site. But I can't imagine they are thrilled to deal with someone who operates like you do - with zero to little respect for others.
Freddie I appreciate all of your efforts with the BJC and have enjoyed visiting the board over the past few years. I wish you nothing but the best with your new endeavor. I have already registered over at the new board and plan on participating on the free platforms. However, as long as Matt is involved with the new BJC, I'm sorry to say that I will never contribute any monies toward the premium side of the board.
As always, Go Jays!! |
I behave the way that I do - true. I'm not exactly a secret to figure out. I'm sorry you are planning on not being a part of the pay site cause you will miss out but I'm happy that you will be part of the BJC still. I have a very good relationship with Bruce Rasmussen and I would really beg to differ with you as to the way I am seen by Creighton. In terms of not having a radio presence in Omaha....right now - no....in the future - you sure I won't?
I get that people don't like some of the rules that are being put into place but this is just the way it has to be. I never do anything private that I wouldn't do public when it comes to business. I'm one of the most accessible media people you will ever meet.....there is a downside to that but I think it's important to be visible. _________________ Listen to my show in Des Moines on www.KXNO.com and check out my twitter site: http://twitter.com/sportstalkmatt |
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ayfan
Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Ok now I get it. I always wondered why someone with so much to cover in Des Moines is hell bent on staying with CU and trying to cover CU from Des Moines. It's all because you want to get into the market. Well 590's not hiring and I doubt 1620 would take you so good luck with that. I'm sure your new employers in Des Moines are happy that they just gave you a job and now you are using it to leave and get back to Omaha. Good Luck with that.
Now to the topic this thread has grown into--First , Matt, the sponsors weren't yours. They were 590's who happen to sponsor a show you did on the station. As for the BB boys going to get new sponsors--good for them? From what they have said they are putting up there own money.
You act like you are the only one that can have a good relationship with CU? I have listened to their show and it sounds like they have a pretty good relationship with CU as well. Besides that should not be an issue--with any one.
Lastly I can understand that you can't allow them to promote their show, especially if rivals have rules. If you allow one then you would have to allow all --so tough break for the BB boys.
But to my last point you always make the statement-" the more CU coverage the better" ---Matt now you need to add "unless CU is covered by someone else" I don't know what the story is and frankly don't care, but you are giving an appearance of a double standard here. |
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Wildjays
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 633
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Heck, I'll go ahead and put in my two cents on the topic, especially if like Matt says this site will be gone within the next 24 hours.
I might have been the one to rock the boat today when I posted a link to my blog on the new board and it got removed. And then it sounded like others had issues as well. First off, this blog is a hobby. I started it to sort of have a consolidated place for some information for myself to keep things in order since so many things were talked about on the BJC and so many topics were rehashed over and over.
In some of my interests on different topics I found some great information which I posted to my blog and then gave a link to the BJC because it might be of interest to someone else. As people found this information interesting, I decided to do more. The idea behind all of this is that Creighton doesn't get the coverage that bigger schools get and if I could help find some facts to put down rumors, then that is what I try to do.
Now Matt, don't get me wrong, you did a lot of great things for promoting Creighton Basketball on BS 590 and you are the biggest self promoter I know. However, many others did a lot to promote you too. I don't know how many mentions I made of you in my blog, linked to your podcasts and helped supplement stories for you to talk about on BS 590 with never a promotion about the location of my blog from you. However, I could dig up the stats of how many people clicked to go to the BS 590 podcasts because as much as you promoted it, people still didn't know they were there. I always thought information about the Creighton program was lacking, so I tried to pool some things together and enhance the information out there. You did the same thing with your radio coverage of the Jays. Others have provided more coverage...Yes even OWH.
So the idea of you starting a site to provide even more coverage of the Jays after your show was cut here in Omaha was brilliant. However, who knew that instead of enhancing that coverage, it has in other ways stifled the progress you made here in Omaha. Now informative stuff that was flowing free on the BJC is now hidden behind a premium message board where only the elite that can afford to subscribe to look at information that is freely out there and the "special enhanced coverage" you are going to provide is hidden behind that same curtain. I can imagine there are probably rules on the premium content as well. What is considered premium?
So what if people approach your former advertisers? Isn't that free enterprise? And if you are going to have Advertisers, then why is there a premium service needed? After all the responses and all the things going on in the first few days of the new BJC, I see this more as a dictatorship where you get to decide what is good and what isn't including throwing your partner Freddy under the bus a few times since you are fast to mention that it was he who ultimately deleted the particular threads and not you.
The original BJC was not about shutting out competition. It was about sharing all the Jays stuff that was out there. I am beginning to feel like things are being changed to let you be the only source for Bluejay information. As a member of the media, aren't you going against the rule of freedom of speech and freedom of information.
So in 24 hours when this site goes away, so does some of the history of the Bluejay program and it's fans. It is a bit sad, but I will still do my best to help provide information to fans that want to know what is going on with the Bluejay Basketball team if people want to stick with me and others that provide Bluejay information. I have family, work and other things to keep me busy and the blog is just a hobby at this point. I appreciate all the people who read my blog and I welcome them to help provide free information to true Jays fans out there.
Have fun. _________________ White and Blue Review -- http://www.whiteandbluereview.com |
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sportstalkmatt
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 1607
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| ayfan wrote: | Ok now I get it. I always wondered why someone with so much to cover in Des Moines is hell bent on staying with CU and trying to cover CU from Des Moines. It's all because you want to get into the market. Well 590's not hiring and I doubt 1620 would take you so good luck with that. I'm sure your new employers in Des Moines are happy that they just gave you a job and now you are using it to leave and get back to Omaha. Good Luck with that.
Now to the topic this thread has grown into--First , Matt, the sponsors weren't yours. They were 590's who happen to sponsor a show you did on the station. As for the BB boys going to get new sponsors--good for them? From what they have said they are putting up there own money.
You act like you are the only one that can have a good relationship with CU? I have listened to their show and it sounds like they have a pretty good relationship with CU as well. Besides that should not be an issue--with any one.
Lastly I can understand that you can't allow them to promote their show, especially if rivals have rules. If you allow one then you would have to allow all --so tough break for the BB boys.
But to my last point you always make the statement-" the more CU coverage the better" ---Matt now you need to add "unless CU is covered by someone else" I don't know what the story is and frankly don't care, but you are giving an appearance of a double standard here. |
Remember who I work for....I don't need to try to get back into Omaha. I'm already there
As far as you Wildjays....you and I have had our talk and the point is mute. I'm sorry you disagree and I'm sorry that this got to the point that it has between our sites but you do your thing - we'll do ours. Deal? No cross promotion.
But think about what you guys angry about...the Jays program has become part of large network - you want in and on the same terms as this board. I get it and that's great...but there is a business side of this and thus things change. We knew people would be pissed...but we have had nearly 300 people sign up for the site in 48 hours. Amazing...not all paying of course but still - the site is growing fast.
This is not the way it will always be.....just in the beginning as recommended by Rivals and I agree with it 100%. If you want to be mad at someone - be mad at me. Freddie has always been uneasy about the link rules...I'm ok with falling on the sword for this one.
More coverage is good - I've always maintained that...this isn't about controlling coverage. If Wildjays had simply linked the story - we wouldn't have cared at all...instead he chose to link to his blog. That's why it was deleted...by Freddie before i suggested it. That's not throwing him under the bus...that's just what happened.
So again, I apologize for the tone. Once the Rivals boards comes back up at 9 am - this board will come down soon afterwards... _________________ Listen to my show in Des Moines on www.KXNO.com and check out my twitter site: http://twitter.com/sportstalkmatt |
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Altman'sAdvisor
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1972 Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Reading this thread has made me sick to my stomach. This was a huge mistake in a lot of ways. The only good that comes out of this is that Freddy will finally get some well-deserved, and long overdue compensation for his work. |
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Altman'sAdvisor
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1972 Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| sportstalkmatt wrote: | | This is not the way it will always be.....just in the beginning as recommended by Rivals and I agree with it 100%. |
Why eliminate some extra Creighton coverage for at least 90 days?
What does that accomplish, and what might change after 90 days?
Why can't Wildjays pimp his blog?
Why can't Tim and Heath get some ideas for their radio show?
Why can't we all co-exist on the new site? |
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marquettebluejay

Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 411 Location: Bromaha
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| sportstalkmatt wrote: | | ayfan wrote: | Ok now I get it. I always wondered why someone with so much to cover in Des Moines is hell bent on staying with CU and trying to cover CU from Des Moines. It's all because you want to get into the market. Well 590's not hiring and I doubt 1620 would take you so good luck with that. I'm sure your new employers in Des Moines are happy that they just gave you a job and now you are using it to leave and get back to Omaha. Good Luck with that.
Now to the topic this thread has grown into--First , Matt, the sponsors weren't yours. They were 590's who happen to sponsor a show you did on the station. As for the BB boys going to get new sponsors--good for them? From what they have said they are putting up there own money.
You act like you are the only one that can have a good relationship with CU? I have listened to their show and it sounds like they have a pretty good relationship with CU as well. Besides that should not be an issue--with any one.
Lastly I can understand that you can't allow them to promote their show, especially if rivals have rules. If you allow one then you would have to allow all --so tough break for the BB boys.
But to my last point you always make the statement-" the more CU coverage the better" ---Matt now you need to add "unless CU is covered by someone else" I don't know what the story is and frankly don't care, but you are giving an appearance of a double standard here. |
Remember who I work for....I don't need to try to get back into Omaha. I'm already there
As far as you Wildjays....you and I have had our talk and the point is mute. I'm sorry you disagree and I'm sorry that this got to the point that it has between our sites but you do your thing - we'll do ours. Deal? No cross promotion.
But think about what you guys angry about...the Jays program has become part of large network - you want in and on the same terms as this board. I get it and that's great...but there is a business side of this and thus things change. We knew people would be pissed...but we have had nearly 300 people sign up for the site in 48 hours. Amazing...not all paying of course but still - the site is growing fast.
This is not the way it will always be.....just in the beginning as recommended by Rivals and I agree with it 100%. If you want to be mad at someone - be mad at me. Freddie has always been uneasy about the link rules...I'm ok with falling on the sword for this one.
More coverage is good - I've always maintained that...this isn't about controlling coverage. If Wildjays had simply linked the story - we wouldn't have cared at all...instead he chose to link to his blog. That's why it was deleted...by Freddie before i suggested it. That's not throwing him under the bus...that's just what happened.
So again, I apologize for the tone. Once the Rivals boards comes back up at 9 am - this board will come down soon afterwards... |
The point is mute, huh Matt? So the point is unable to talk?
Matt, you're awesome. I'm glad Bruce likes you, because the majority of Creighton nation doesn't. Good bye BJC. I'll miss you. Sorry for being a prick on here so many times. Tkjay, I'll be listening every Sunday morning, even though you are trying to take Rivals out of business. RealHoops, you were always like a father to me. Blueblood, no hard feelings. IH8SIU, you're a douche. Go Marquette, Go Jays. |
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PJay
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 286 Location: Sundeckers
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| Altman'sAdvisor wrote: | | sportstalkmatt wrote: | | This is not the way it will always be.....just in the beginning as recommended by Rivals and I agree with it 100%. |
Why eliminate some extra Creighton coverage for at least 90 days?
What does that accomplish, and what might change after 90 days?
Why can't Wildjays pimp his blog?
Why can't Tim and Heath get some ideas for their radio show?
Why can't we all co-exist on the new site? |
Because Matt is a complete tool. I cannot believe people are going to be paying to read his coverage. Do you people not remember the product he gave us on the radio? He was terrible. Yes it was awesome to have Jays coverage, but I remember on many occasions listening to Matt give a Creighton interview and changing the channel because it was so hard to listen to. Why the hell would I pay to read the product that he produces?
I can also recall on several occasions talking to players on campus. There were several of them who said that they would ignore Matt's calls or "forget" to call him back because they did not want to talk to him period. This will not end because Matt is no longer on the radio in Omaha. I bet by January and Matt has called each guy 15 time to try and get an interview with them the players will be real sick of dealing with his immaturity and lack of professionalism.
He used this board to pimp his old show. He used this board to make money by changing it over to rivals. He is using your pocketbook by taking your money and doing an interview with Kenny Lawson that gave us no new information whatsoever. I love that he would pimp his interviews for his radio show each and every day on this message board. Now tkjay is doing the exact same thing and Matt is deleting the post. Remember when Matt said he would not be deleting posts? He would not be banning people? I know very few people will read this post as Matt will make sure it is deleted or they will not see it before the website is taken down. But I can ensure you that a new, free, message board similar to the cafe will be developed by the seasons start. And it will be Matt Perrault free. And tkjay will be able to promote his show every week. Because jays fans want to hear about jays related things. Crazy concept.
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PJay
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 286 Location: Sundeckers
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| cujaysfan wrote: | this is bad business conducting this sorta thing in public.
freddy - friendly suggestion to reign your partner in. |
Matt has never been the most professional acting person has he? Fred, good luck working with him in the future. Nothing like pissing off a handful of Jays fans the first few days you are open for business. |
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CP JAY 07
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1648 Location: Omaha
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Matt I have stayed quiet on this whole situation, I went and joined the rivals site and once it is back up I plan on giving you 10 dollars a month to hear stuff I use to hear for free on this board. But to not allow people to pimp blogs and not allowing the Banter guys to talk about their show is just plain stupid. Matt the reason people are so pissed off about this is your splitting up a family, I don't wanna get all wishy washy here but this place was sort of a family to me and to a lot of people. Hell I remember driving to Carbondale this year and checking the cafe on our phones every hour, I remember sitting in a hotel room in Carbondale with three different laptops and all three had the cafe on and people were posting about the trip. I remember in Carbondale two years ago when I was in the bathroom I met KenoshaJay, he actually asked if any of us posted on the cafe and I introduced myself as CP Jay. I remember meeting Juantag for the first time and some other members of the board on that trip.
Its not the same over at the new place, I went over there the other day and all the pics on the site are Fusker pics, I have never heard of half the posters and half of them have the word husker in the name. Most of the guys had to change the name, and some didn't come over.
Matt I guess I just wish there was a way to give the Jays more coverage but keep this site. I will miss this place a lot. I probably checked it 10 times a day and when I wake up tomorrow it will be gone, its kind of sad. Goodbye Cafe. |
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kvandy
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:18 am Post subject: |
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I am not suprised at all by Matt's dictatorship on the new site. He is after all a Democrat after all. I've never heard of Democrats stifling free speech have you? The worst part about the new site is we won't be able to poke fun at matt anymore because he will just delete it instead of making some lame excuse. I always loved watching him get take jokes wrong and get all defensive. Maybe we can refer to him as Bluejay Obama just as he makes clever names for all the people he doesn't like. See ya on the free board. |
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coopjay
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Posts: 117
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Matt, I'm one of your biggest fans, and still miss your show.
That said, this is stupid. I don't know what your issue is with Bluejay Banter, but these guys are doing a great job in promoting the program. Heck, they've gone out of their way to promote the website, and probably would have done the same for your site, free of charge, with their "cookin' at the Cafe" segment.
Instead, you've pulled this silly double standard and won't allow them to do what you did on the Husker site. You know, it's obviously not that effective, considering that it didn't exactly pull your show into a ratings position that allowed you to keep your job.
I wish you great success in Des Moines, but with this attitude, I fear you will see similar results. Maybe your plan is all along to come back to Omaha, as you allude. What are you going to do? Buy airtime on your old station? |
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sportstalkmatt
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Altman'sAdvisor wrote: | | sportstalkmatt wrote: | | This is not the way it will always be.....just in the beginning as recommended by Rivals and I agree with it 100%. |
Why eliminate some extra Creighton coverage for at least 90 days?
What does that accomplish, and what might change after 90 days?
Why can't Wildjays pimp his blog?
Why can't Tim and Heath get some ideas for their radio show?
Why can't we all co-exist on the new site? |
I would agree with the co-exist angle. Other than that - 90 days is to see where we are at in terms of the site. How I come Fred and I don't get the right to bitch like you guys are when nobody asked us what they could do on the new site? They just do it?
Funny on the double standard works. Sorry this has gotten so negative. Very sad in a way to see. I understand the anger....but people could have come and talk to us - but never did. _________________ Listen to my show in Des Moines on www.KXNO.com and check out my twitter site: http://twitter.com/sportstalkmatt |
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Altman'sAdvisor
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1972 Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| sportstalkmatt wrote: | I would agree with the co-exist angle. Other than that - 90 days is to see where we are at in terms of the site. How I come Fred and I don't get the right to bitch like you guys are when nobody asked us what they could do on the new site? They just do it?
Funny on the double standard works. Sorry this has gotten so negative. Very sad in a way to see. I understand the anger....but people could have come and talk to us - but never did. |
If I may, what exactly are the conditions between you, Freddy, and Rivals with regards to this situation (posting blog links, informing people about upcoming topics on Bluejay Banter)? I'd like to know that answer, and why there is a 90-day trial before those items could become part of the new site.
*If you don't want the answer to be public you can PM or email me the answer. |
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coopjay
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| sportstalkmatt wrote: | | Altman'sAdvisor wrote: | | sportstalkmatt wrote: | | This is not the way it will always be.....just in the beginning as recommended by Rivals and I agree with it 100%. |
Why eliminate some extra Creighton coverage for at least 90 days?
What does that accomplish, and what might change after 90 days?
Why can't Wildjays pimp his blog?
Why can't Tim and Heath get some ideas for their radio show?
Why can't we all co-exist on the new site? |
How I come Fred and I don't get the right to bitch like you guys are when nobody asked us what they could do on the new site? They just do it?
Funny on the double standard works. |
Is it just me or does this not make any sense at all? Funny on the double standard works? How I come Fred and I don't get the right to bitch? |
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